Needsize
06-23-2005, 09:00 AM
Well first off I have to say that guy on the show was the biggest pussy I have ever seen, and his wife was a crazy bitch, if I ever have a wife that speeks for me I will beat her ass.
Anyway, glad I watched it but like always steroids in the end came out to be bad. I guess steroids and the GH had nothing to do with him losing 15lbs and 15%bf in 22days.
Yes 41 pills otc or not will kill your liver, hell his body building trainer (who was a big ass dude) right off the bat lifted the bag of pills and said heres your problem.
What about the sperm can it really get that messed up in 20days?
I felt like always someone that knows nothing tried a/s and fucked it up.
boowaxwell
06-23-2005, 11:28 AM
I agree. Sperm counts, lipid profiles and liver values can all go bad while on cycle. However, they come back afterwards. This wimp also had his liver values and sperm count restored when he stopped popping all the pills and went off cycle.
I agree with the longevity doc who stated he had never seen elevated liver values from Test replacement therapy and HGH. The guy was only on 100 mg of test per week. They then state that he was roid raging.
It also bothered me that they claim steroids cause diabeties, cancer, roid rage, etc. They never mentioned the real side effects of hair loss or gyno. As usual, media sensationalism for a story.
This guy hasn't exercised a day in 14 years and he had been eating fast foods. Put him on a regular exercise program and diet, and he would have lost the weight (although slower). With his present lifestyle, he will have type II diabeties and CV problems even without ever touching steroids again.
Demon
06-23-2005, 12:54 PM
Well, of course, 40 pills a day will kill your liver. There is no arguing about that. And the doc should have told him that HRT is gonna shut down his boyz. Even 100 mg/week will do that because a healthy male produces up to 70 mg/week tops. BTW, is that me or anybody else thinks that doc is kinda creepy? What cracked me up is that he's been shooting test and hgh for 8 years and by looking at him you'd never tell. I guess he forgot the 'exercise' part of feeling good and staying young longer. Oh, well. All in all, it was a funny show. I disagree that the guy is a pussy- he had no experience with steroids and had no idea of possible side effects or even what to expect from the cycle. His was a normal reaction of the average Joe on something that is scary - your liver outta whack and your sperm dead. When you have no idea how it works and your doc tell you that you are fucked up - what would you do?
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buffdiggity
06-23-2005, 01:22 PM
His wife was a loud, fat, hater. He was pussy whipped beyond belief. why couldn't he finish the HRT and let his boys come back then. And why did he donate to the bank if he knew it was possible he would shoot blanks for a while. He wasn't dedicated enough to it, which was evident by his cardio trainer getting on his case. I didn't see his wife popping off to the pro bodybuilder.
All in all, I think it was a good show. The general practitioner he was seeing seemed very biased on the negative effects of HRT and did not give a good neutral opinion.
I do think that the part about the kid who committed suicide only demonized roids and had no business being on the show.
Demon
06-23-2005, 02:44 PM
I do think that the part about the kid who committed suicide only demonized roids and had no business being on the show.
I think you are right. And once again it proves the point that one needs to learn how it works and be mature enough (physically and mentally) to start juicing successfully. Oh, well. Another shot at steroids. Big surprise.
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Korean&Proud
06-23-2005, 03:40 PM
I think I pretty much saw what was expected. But damn, what a bitch his wife was.
K&P
Chest Rockwell
06-23-2005, 06:36 PM
I agree with most of what was said.
If his wife let him have his balls back his test levels wouldn't be so low in the first place.
The pro bb was Bob Cicherillo... He's a pretty funny guy. It was a shame they didn't have more of him in the show.
johnnyb
06-23-2005, 06:52 PM
Yeah, the dude is a good guy. He posts over at *********.com forums.