I think i'v decided the my current cycle is going to be last one. im not a long time user, about 4 years doing about 8 cycles. i'v come a long way and i am about where I want to be. 2 Questions: (1) should I wing my self off of them slowly or quit cold turky when i finish this last cycle? (2) whan are some good sups. I can take to keep gains going. i'v heard of something called NO2 or something like that was one to consider. Thanx for any input.

after running 8 cycles i wouldnt get my hopes up about getting more gains naturally but im not saying it is impossible. as for natural supplemant i would say creatine, whey protien, zma,and multivatamin.

Yeah, I wouldn't expect any 'GAINS' however if you are where you want to be then maintaining shouldn't be a problem.

You will obviously loose some of your gains but with a clean diet, plently of protein and multi-vits they will be kept to a minimum.

Good luck!

I have a couple of suggestions. First I would get some Creatine HP phosphagen from EAS, ALA or R-ALA although I haven't tried the R. I run about a gram split up throughout the day with meals. I get great pumps and stay that way all day long and I have to tell you I feel like I'm "ON". Of course there isn't going to be those great gains like AAS but you don't have to worry about your health like you do with AAS. I also use about 2000 iu's of B-12 injectable about every 3rd day. I have to swear by this for now guys. The best thing is I have to eat every five seconds. Hope that this helps some. It is just what seems to be working really well for me right now.:beerc

im only going to add what i know about no2, i have been on no2 for 3 months now and it only improves the pump during work outs and has a cell volumizing type of quality, it also helps vascularity-- dont know how it would do to keep gains, i know it works for me to make gains naturally--good luck :cents

thanx for all the info guys, where can i get B 12 injectables. I'm guessing im going need to get it from a dr.

cold turkey... its the only way to quit anything!

:cents

Actually, Walt, injectable B12 is legally available for use in animals, like tren. Some places require a prescription but most don't...most that carry it, that is.

If you aren't at your genetic limit, then you can keep making gains naturally. You may consider supplements to raise your natural testosterone, things like Tribulus, Avena sativa (Biotest's Tribulus 500 has both), ZMA, Eurycoma longifolia, Essential Fatty Acids, etc. I'm a non-responder to creatine, but it works well for a lot of people, it could work well for you. Those NO2 products have a good rep, I'm thinking about trying it myself. Injectable B12 sounds like a good idea, I don't know about how anabolic it will be but it couldn't hurt. Most of the guys that sell gear sell B12, and its not scheduled or anything so the authorities couldn't hastle you much. But saying you are buying it for animal could work too, I don't know much about that, look more into it. And of course good multi vitamin and diet, but you already know that.

-Good luck

I have seen many guys make the same decision over the years. The ones that succeed and are happy and healthy find that they really need to push themselves and watch the diet more closely. After about 6 months the body seems to adapt to the new way and gains do come, just slower.

I took 2 years off and found that the drive to hit it hard was the hard part.

Due to my career I am back on AAS.
Not to say I won't take another break when my job will not be so demanding.

Good Luck

I have come off no for a prolonged period of time and I plan on staying off. I came off with 10 days of HCG at 500 ius a day followed by 3 weeks of clomid. I was running growth along with my last cycle and am still running at a low doisage 2.5 ius daily. Also another way to keep your size is by ruinning slin. Slin keeps you in a positive nitrogen balance and dosent affect your natural test one bit. I have been off for 6 months now and I like it. Im 37 and have done many cycles. It is good to be off and happy.