Hi guys, I dont know if you remember, but I caused quite a fuss in the newbie forum a while ago, by not listening and taking advice. I just want to say, I listened to all the advice, and got myself Dianabols to use with my Deca and Winnies. I am now in my 5th week in the cycle, and wow, great results, I'm loving every moment of it. I used 2ml Deca 300 per week, with 30mg of Dianabol per day for the first 5 weeks, and for the last 2 weeks, I'm gonna use 100mg winstrol eod. Like I said, I'm now just finnished with my 5th week, so just finnished with the deca and dbols and my gains have been amazing.

Before, I was 1.98m tall, 97kg, and my biceps were 39cm.

Now I am 110kg, and my biceps are 42cm.:lift

Thanks for the advice and will keep you all posted about further progress.

Good , dont forget your pct , what you gonna use ?

There is a shortage of HCG(Pregnyl) in our country, so cannot get hold of it, so I'm gonna use Nolvadex, already got it. I can go through alot of trouble to try and get HCG from overseas but that would cost alot and I think the nolvadex will be fine.

There is a shortage of HCG(Pregnyl) in our country, so cannot get hold of it, so I'm gonna use Nolvadex, already got it. I can go through alot of trouble to try and get HCG from overseas but that would cost alot and I think the nolvadex will be fine.

LOL, Hcg is not hard to find!!!

It's hard for me to believe that you started feeling deca that soon, considering it is one of the longer ester steroids( do you know what esters are???) It usually takes me five or six wks to even feel deca!

BTW, does your dick still stand at attention after all that deca without test???

Come to SA and try and find HCG, its funny till it happens to you. Well I guess the fact that I gained 14kg in 5 weeks kinda means that I felt the deca. O, and what do you think Dianabol is, its a test derivative, working in much the same way, so my noodle was better than ever thanks alot.

think that could of been contributed to the 30mgs of dbol everyday bro? im bumpn two slug on this one

Also the fact I would have waited until I had some test for this cycle.

I know several ppl in Brazil and they have no problem ordering pregyl (hcg) from overseas. I called them to make sure. Most of the other countries in South America are also lax compared to our customs department. It's relatively cheap and not considered a steroid. Maybe you don't have the right supplier??

If your happy with your gains, then I'm happy for you.:) I would add test to my next cycle though.

Good luck GearNoob.

if youre actually from South America, you can get HCG by the name Endocorion 5000IU, it comes in a sealed vial with a 5ml amp of BW, cost is aprox 30$.

600mg deca and no test? brave man...

First off I'm from South Africa, not South America, so it's even harder here with our strict customs. OK thanks for the advice on the test for my next cycle, I'm planning it already. Will let you know what my plans are.

GN, are you using anything right now to keep your nuts from shrinking?You deffinatly should be with all that deca. Also if you would have added a real test with this cycle not D-bol a test derivative your gains could have been MUCH higher.
Whenever I use D-bol lets say in a 10wk cycle I run it the first 3-4 and then wks 10-14. I carry it past the cycle right up till I start pct.

What are your Pct plans by the way?

And 2 slug everyone feels effects at differant times. I feel test in 2wks and deca by the 3rd. I dont feel anything with EQ no matter how high; so I dont even know if it works for me. Guess I should run a short EQ only cycle to see.

Its not how much you gain while on cycle, its how much you can keep after its all said and done. Water retention is a big part of gains while "on" and you may lose the size afterwards if you don't follow up with pct.

And 2 slug everyone feels effects at differant times. I feel test in 2wks and deca by the 3rd. I dont feel anything with EQ no matter how high; so I dont even know if it works for me. Guess I should run a short EQ only cycle to see.

Sorry DN, I wish I could deal with everyone one an individual basis, but I try to help ppl on several sites( not as many as you).

Firstly, I can only go by scientific research and members experience.Secondly the experience of ppl I know and train, and lastly my own experience.

This is what I base my opinions on!!!

I wish I could help everyone on a first hand basis and see how they react to each aas.

Sorry DN, I wish I could deal with everyone one an individual basis, but I try to help ppl on several sites( not as many as you).

Firstly, I can only go by scientific research and members experience.Secondly the experience of ppl I know and train, and lastly my own experience.

This is what I base my opinions on!!!

I wish I could help everyone on a first hand basis and see how they react to each aas.

Hey no reason to be sarcastic. Just because your on several sites helping ppl; have "scientific research " train ppl and lastly your own experiance to base your "opinion" on. Doesnt mean IN THE LEAST that i'm wrong like your implying. A thousand ppl might have the same reactions; but that doesnt mean every else has to also. I've never had the same reactions to drugs as others.And have delt with others like this.
Like for example pain Meds. 97% of ppl get tired and or drowsy on them. I'm in the other 3% that gets all happy and energized by them. Or EQ ppl say it helps them stay hungry and gives them slow but solid growth. I feel nothing from it and feel it's usless for me. No matter the dose or length of time I'm on it.
So unless "like you said" he sees how he reacts to both deca and D-Bol by themselves or just with test to compare. No One is right. It's just speculation.
Can ya please PM me; i'd like to find out more about Scientific research. And wont get into a pissing match in public forums. Thanks

Thanks for the advice from both of you, Yep been finnished with the cycle for a week now, and I'm on nolvadex as a pct, only lost 1 kg so far but it looks to be only water retention, as my definition is looking much better. I will try test as you both recommended on my next cycle.

Hey no reason to be sarcastic. Just because your on several sites helping ppl; have "scientific research " train ppl and lastly your own experiance to base your "opinion" on. Doesnt mean IN THE LEAST that i'm wrong like your implying. A thousand ppl might have the same reactions; but that doesnt mean every else has to also. I've never had the same reactions to drugs as others.And have delt with others like this.
Like for example pain Meds. 97% of ppl get tired and or drowsy on them. I'm in the other 3% that gets all happy and energized by them. Or EQ ppl say it helps them stay hungry and gives them slow but solid growth. I feel nothing from it and feel it's usless for me. No matter the dose or length of time I'm on it.
So unless "like you said" he sees how he reacts to both deca and D-Bol by themselves or just with test to compare. No One is right. It's just speculation.
Can ya please PM me; i'd like to find out more about Scientific research. And wont get into a pissing match in public forums. Thanks

LOL BRO,
I thought you were being sarcastic to me!! My post was not to offend you in anyway. I'll agree that there can be exceptions to any norm. For instance , I'm one of the ppl who get a great buzz of of pain killers. I'm not trying to turn anything into a pissing match, but we had a misunderstanding on the issues of this thread.I still agree that advice should still be given to the 90% of ppl who do react in a particular fashion to any aas. I would still like to start up a friendly PM discussion about this, so it may help others the future.
TS

PM away Bro.