Tren question.
Can one use tren during a bulking cycle? If so, can it be used throughout the whole cycle or should it be limited to the last 4 weeks of a cycle? Using 75mg EOD, with a test cyp, eq, and d-bol cycle. Wanting to harden up at the end the cycle. Any suggestions on what would help?

ive read 6-8 wks max. it is used for bulking cycles. how often u shoot depends on the type of tren u are using. search around on the board for some more info you will find it.

its used for both. I would say more so as a cutting cycle though.

It really depends on you and you commitment. I have had great results with running less per dose for a longer period of time. If you are going to run it for 6 weeks, run it hard and with plenty to keep yourself clean. If you are going to run it longer, drop the dose to 50mgs EOD or 25 ED and run it for 10-12 weeks with your bulker. Keep the kidneys and liver clean, tren is very harsh on the liver and the extra protein will have the kidneys running in overtime.

Keep in mind what can happen with the tren. incredible strength gain and some serious aggression in the gym. Watch those joints and take supps for them as well. As with any cycle, if it is done correctly and safely you can achieve you goals. Just make sure you have EVERYTHING you need before you start. Don't half as it.

Thanks alot fellas, this forum is the best that i've been on ,Period!! Great info!!

Tren Rules! Just don't do it for a long time. I wouldn't do it more than twice a year. You'll be happy with the results. Eat right and train hard!

I am in the middle of bulk cycle useing tren a 100mg eod 1000mg enth ew,
300mg deca for joints. Eating around 6000cal a day. In my 8th week 16lbs
so far. Tren changed everything.

tren is deff going to be in the next cycle....just have to wait until febuary!

Bro,if you are only on your 2nd cycle,you should hold off on the Tren until you have more cycles under your belt.

Tren can be very harsh to some and at this point,you don't need it.

The cycle you asked about previously will work wonders for you if your diet and training mis tight.

Save the Tren for later my friend.

Bro,if you are only on your 2nd cycle,you should hold off on the Tren until you have more cycles under your belt.

Tren can be very harsh to some and at this point,you don't need it.

The cycle you asked about previously will work wonders for you if your diet and training mis tight.

Save the Tren for later my friend.
Did not know it was second cycle IRON is correct.

Bro,if you are only on your 2nd cycle,you should hold off on the Tren until you have more cycles under your belt.

Tren can be very harsh to some and at this point,you don't need it.

The cycle you asked about previously will work wonders for you if your diet and training mis tight.

Save the Tren for later my friend.

I was wondering why you think he should wait to get more cycles under his belt before he uses tren. I've never heard that before. I understand Tren is hard on the body. what's some of the other reasons?

I was wondering why you think he should wait to get more cycles under his belt before he uses tren. I've never heard that before. I understand Tren is hard on the body. what's some of the other reasons?


That is the main reason bro.

First off,with this being only his 2nd cycle,he should still be growing like a weed on test alone,maybe some d-bol to kickstart.Why start adding compounds now.The only thing it will do is build up his tolerance that much quicker so he will need more AAS to get the same results as before.This is a longevity game brother.The main thing to lasting is keeping things always at a minimum while still being able to grow.Then only when you can no longer make gains on those doses,compunds,etc,should you add in more.

Secondly,at this stage of the game,he still doesn't know what his tolerances are to AAS,and will only do so by taking each compound at a time and learning how his body reacts to each one.Once his body gets used to the more tolerable compounds,and he knows what his "MINIMUM"requirements of those are,then he can add in more aggressive compounds like Tren.By doing it like this,he will already know how his body reacts to the other things and if and if he should happen to have too hard a reaction to Tren,he will know that its that,and can adjust the dose or drop it out of his cycle accordingly.

Got to bump Iron on this one he is right. But if you must take it take it at the beginning and take lower doses than normal about 50mg eod if its tren-a if its tren E I am not sure how much you should take as i have never used it, to me that stuff is just a shit test. I did some tren a few times, but Its just not like finajet/finaject from the 80's that stuff ruled!

That is the main reason bro.

First off,with this being only his 2nd cycle,he should still be growing like a weed on test alone,maybe some d-bol to kickstart.Why start adding compounds now.The only thing it will do is build up his tolerance that much quicker so he will need more AAS to get the same results as before.This is a longevity game brother.The main thing to lasting is keeping things always at a minimum while still being able to grow.Then only when you can no longer make gains on those doses,compunds,etc,should you add in more.

Secondly,at this stage of the game,he still doesn't know what his tolerances are to AAS,and will only do so by taking each compound at a time and learning how his body reacts to each one.Once his body gets used to the more tolerable compounds,and he knows what his "MINIMUM"requirements of those are,then he can add in more aggressive compounds like Tren.By doing it like this,he will already know how his body reacts to the other things and if and if he should happen to have too hard a reaction to Tren,he will know that its that,and can adjust the dose or drop it out of his cycle accordingly.

got to bump this big time...:D

Got to bump Iron on this one he is right. But if you must take it take it at the beginning and take lower doses than normal about 50mg eod if its tren-a if its tren E I am not sure how much you should take as i have never used it, to me that stuff is just a shit test. I did some tren a few times, but Its just not like finajet/finaject from the 80's that stuff ruled!

are you kidding me - I gave you exactly the same advice when you wanted to do tren in your first year of talking AAS and you blew a fuse saying I was full of shit ......

I would not run tren at the beginning of the cycle either there is nothing worse than taking it at the beginning and having to stop it half way through a cycle and your strength goes down.. Run tren A at the end of your cycle - this way you get a nice kick of strength to keep hitting the weights hard - I have seen people take tren at the start of a cycle and "burn out" 3/4 of the way through...

That is the main reason bro.

First off,with this being only his 2nd cycle,he should still be growing like a weed on test alone,maybe some d-bol to kickstart.Why start adding compounds now.The only thing it will do is build up his tolerance that much quicker so he will need more AAS to get the same results as before.This is a longevity game brother.The main thing to lasting is keeping things always at a minimum while still being able to grow.Then only when you can no longer make gains on those doses,compunds,etc,should you add in more.

Secondly,at this stage of the game,he still doesn't know what his tolerances are to AAS,and will only do so by taking each compound at a time and learning how his body reacts to each one.Once his body gets used to the more tolerable compounds,and he knows what his "MINIMUM"requirements of those are,then he can add in more aggressive compounds like Tren.By doing it like this,he will already know how his body reacts to the other things and if and if he should happen to have too hard a reaction to Tren,he will know that its that,and can adjust the dose or drop it out of his cycle accordingly.


Good point Iron. I know about the longevity game Brother. 14 years . I've seen and heard all kind of things about how to take AAS. I would agree that you have to pay attention to how your body is reacting to what ever you are taking. I think the advice I would give to anyone getting into this would be take your time as well.

got to bump this big time...:D



are you kidding me - I gave you exactly the same advice when you wanted to do tren in your first year of talking AAS and you blew a fuse saying I was full of shit ......

I would not run tren at the beginning of the cycle either there is nothing worse than taking it at the beginning and having to stop it half way through a cycle and your strength goes down.. Run tren A at the end of your cycle - this way you get a nice kick of strength to keep hitting the weights hard - I have seen people take tren at the start of a cycle and "burn out" 3/4 of the way through...

Yeah your right Jam i did:). But I also I ran it at the bigging and at the end, I only did 20 days and 20 days. And just because i blew a fuse that does not mean i did not listen haha:).

I'm just looking to add some definition to what i gain "at the end of my cycle".
Suggestions??

How old are you Holy... HGH works good for ending a cycle or just using it all the time like most of us do. It will help you drop bf and get larger veins both a + for looks. But to get some HGH you have to be at least 30 i think and have a drop in production to get a script. At least legally that is. You can be younger but you then need a big drop in GH production. I think jam has some info on other things you can run to harden up he is good at this type of stuff. I only know what works for me and do all my stuff how i feel like doing it, in most cases i do it the exact opposite, but thats how things work for me, if an item does something like lets say tren adds strength, I want it in the front, and back, but if i could only have 1 i would still pick front, as this is where i would want it, then at the end I would try to get every thing i lost back, and same while on pct...So far I have kept round about all of my strength gains, and muscle size, but i do keep losing over all weight. I know its going to because of my damn bike, but i will not stop riding it so I will take the good with the bad. I also like running winny at the end part of my cycle it seems to help me lose fat but thats probably in my head.

You can add in some var the last 6 wks @20-40mg ed.Anavar is great for cutting and will help you retain what you have gained from the bulker with no neg sides.

I'm 32, 6', 195 lbs, and I'm not sure what my BF is, exactly, I can say that my metabolism is very high. My bulk diet consists of around 6000cals and 500 grams protien a day. I have no problem in gaining new mass, And for the biggest part, I keep alot of it. I just want it do be more defined. I work my ass off through-out as well as my off time. Thought about HGH, but I'm ignorant to the use of it.(How much, how often it should be injected...Pin size and where to be injected.) But have read good things about it.

well first you got to see if you need it, unless your going to take it no matter what, then most ppl are finding it hard to find right now, there are many different ways to run GH, do a search on here bro, you can find an easy 6 different ways some better than others but still depends on the person.

Great board, W/ great advice!! All around!!

Did you find your Gh info?