i plan on taking sustanon 300mg per week for 7 weeks i am not a bodybuilder only a 22yo guy who has never weighed more than 120lbs yet i never go below 115lbs.my daily caloric intake is aroung 900 not because i don't have access to food but i just have no appitate sometimes just eating makes me sick to the point of puking.I need to weigh at least 140 is this obtainable? will my appitate become normal? i know i should see a doctor but without insurance that's kind of hard. i only need the weight short term i won't care if it comes off.

Is this a serious question? What are you a fucking heroin addict??

SR

sounds strange to me.

sounds like a crack problem, take some weight gain powder, put down the pipe

sounds like your full of shit to me, if you take sustonon you will die you retard, that stuff kills anyone below 175lbs your eyeballs will explode you dumb ass read the cautions on the sust label man, You are so lucky you asked you could have been dead or blind in the morning. Sorry to yell at you like this but i cant imagine what would your momma do or Dad when he came into little shimmy's room there 130lbs son who eats a few eggs a day and find him trying to get out of his room with his eyes all blown apart and exploded onto his face.and saying mommy I just wanted to gain 5 more lbs..... man sad story here. Man eat some food do some push ups pull ups sit ups pulls ups push ups run ups and run downs and eat eat eat, dont take roids man that shit is bad4u.4u bad bad 4 U

i see your point im not a drug addict i wasn't looking forward to taking juice. i just tried everything to gain weight i do work out at least 10 hours a week i get stronger but not bigger or even hungary. try to imagine that working out but not having the desire to eat after. can i dilute it or something i don't wanna be superman just healthy and i know roids ain't healthy but neither is being this small tell me what you would do and be honest you wouldn't be ok at 120lbs

HOw freakin tall are you?

6 feet

toss them roids in the trash you little guy you, or I am telling your Mom. all you need to do is start taking vitamins and iron b-complex b-12 5kmcg per day and calcuim2kmg per day and eat a perfect 4 meal diet per day till you can get it up to 6 meals. you will also need to drink 1 1/2 gals of water per day no coffee no soda no junk food and then you will be able to eat, no pasta no beens but some certain ones. I want you to eat salmon wild raised 3x per week chicken ed and protein shakes for 2 of your meals brake fast and after dinner snack. you need to lift for 30-45min 5 days per week and do cardio if you feel the need or if your very unhealthy this will get your cardiovascular system working better and this will in turn help your body feed itself. This is just an outline there is so much more we need to tell you if your serious if not please just delete your account and take a hike, but bro i will not help you nor will anyone else here if you don't toss them roids out, they will fuk you up you are not even close for the need of them especially the most powerful steroid in the world sust 250 right? I seen guys take that one and blow up right in the gym, do a search and see for your self type in guy takes sustonon and blows up...please do not take them roids bro.

no soda no junk food and then you will be able to eat, no pasta no beens but some certain ones.

you need to lift for 30-45min 5 days per week and do cardio if you feel the need or if your very unhealthy this will get your cardiovascular system working better and this will in turn help your body feed itself.

I gotta disagree with you here AK. If the boy is truly 120 and is having trouble putting on weight then he should have pretty much no restirctions in his diet. Pasta should be an everyday meal, soda and junk food...why not? Why wouldn't he be able to eat just because he drinks a soda? The kid needs to put on some weight and badly, he needs to eat everything and anything he can shove down his mouth. AND stay away from the cardio, he says he's 120lbs, cardio should not be part of his exercise regimen, last thing he needs is for his body to start feeding on itself.


iqinsanity-Would you mind posting a picture of yourself for us to better understand your situation? At 6 feet tall and 120lbs you must look like a concentration camp victim and your right, thats not healthy in any way. However it's also rather hard to believe. I'm 6'2" and rather lean and I cannot possibly imagine what I would like at 120lbs. If your serious about gaining weight then you need to see a doctor and find out why eating makes you sick, there could be a medical reason for that (if you truly not a drug addict). These guys are correct, steroids are not what you need. Food is what you need and lots of it. But what I am having trouble understanding the most is your comment that you don't care if the weight comes off after your little 7 wk stint, wtf is up with that?? Do you want to be healthy long term or not? If you don't care if the weight comes back off then why the fuck should we bother helping you in any way shape or form?????

SR

the reason i don't care if the weight stays on is i really want to join the us army i need to be 140lbs at 6 feet once i get there than uncle sam gets to figure out whats wrong with me before they send me to iraq this is a very serious question i will keep the sust. unopened the getting sick thing only happens once in a while or if i try to force myself to eat im only hungary at night before i go to sleep. i do feel that my problem can easily be fixed by a medicine and i know steroids won't be it but it's expencive not to have insurance and get blood stool or any other test. i will take a pic of my self on a scale today and post later i do really appreciate the fact that you guys are responding to this thread and not just dismissing this as not your problem or somthing you can't relate to

Okay now thats making alot more sense, and kudos for you for joining up thats. Again though you need food, high calorie food. Pizza, pasta, subs, steak, fish, burgers, potato's, chinese food, ect. Get yourself a weightgainer shake supplement too. And if you are hungry before bed then make sure you chow down. Look for meals high in calories and carbs, hell eat a gallon of ice cream if you have the urge. It doesn't matter if you put on a significant amount of fat because after your in I'm sure they'll find ways to burn it off ya anyway lol.

SR

alright guys.. stop bashing.

look, you already do know your problem---you don't eat enough. There ARE ways of getting down more calories without eating a busload of food. Weight Gainer shakes are a wonderful way to do this. Realistically you don't have a lot of weight to put on... and yes it's possible.

As a comparison, I began bodybuilding at 147lb and I'm 6'2"... I clock the scale around 228lb currently.

Agreed Weight Gainers shake and pasta pizza icecream ect...
The best weight gainer shake I have used when younger was Russian Bear
5000 cals per shake I think it was 8 scoops per serving but dam did I gain weight and had trouble getting the fat off but it will get you into the service.
I also had problems gaining weight in my 20's weight gainer shakes did it.
I was about 150 6'3 now I am close to 270lbs and still somewhat lean.
Good Luck

I would agree with you SR if he did not say he cant fit it in, in some ppl candies pasta and junk type foods swells up in there guts making it hard for them to get hungry and plow down food, but i do agree he should get mad cals...

would you guys know of any appitate stimulants or somthing along those lines

not sure on that either i think 15 minuets cardio 3 times per week will help him digest food and metabolize his food faster and more efficiently. Also some vits iron b complex and b-12 will also help him eat more. I just dont like the idea of getting anyone on a diet thats not a good diet, eating junk still hurts your heart cardio system and other organs and once you have a diet like this even skinny you can develop diabetes, or hyperglycemia. I tin whole grain weight gainers are the way to go with low sugar and only glucose and honey after work outs for real sugars, but this is me, I like to keep it clean as possible all year round so when i do fuk up it dont hurt me much.

I just eat chinese 3 times a day. that usually fattens me up a little .

(dont take me seriously)

Dude, are you fuckin kiddin me? 6 feet tall and wieghing in at a buck 20?Is that even possible? You either have an eating disorder you aint tellin us about or a tape worm the size of a Burmese Python. Pick up a fork goddamnit and eat. there is no 2 ways about it. EAT EAT EAT EAT!!!!!!!!!

at 6 feet you can weigh only 85lbs not that i ever want to be an example. just telling me to eat doesn't do me any good the reason i first posted is because i can't do that it's easy to say eat but if you have a real problem with eating it isn't that easy. i did reserch on aids victims getting 300ml sustanon every three weeks as prescribed by a doctor to force thier body to want to eat and store the food as lean body mass they weigh less than i do and don't die from thier eyes poping out or heard attacks as far as an eating disorder it may be but i am not chosing to do this to myself i would love to be 150 170 or even 190 but no i am 120 i was off the idea of taking the stuff but the only advice i've gotten is eat i knew that when i was 10yo 12 years later and still real skinny can i have some advice about using the stuff i have as hrt? i need 20lbs if i can't get it soon i loose $20,000 when they take away the sign on bonus for having a ged as the war is going to be as unpopular as vietnam and we pull out. this money means the world to me and yes it is worth possibaly losing my life over.

at 6 feet you can weigh only 85lbs not that i ever want to be an example. just telling me to eat doesn't do me any good the reason i first posted is because i can't do that it's easy to say eat but if you have a real problem with eating it isn't that easy. i did reserch on aids victims getting 300ml sustanon every three weeks as prescribed by a doctor to force thier body to want to eat and store the food as lean body mass they weigh less than i do and don't die from thier eyes poping out or heard attacks as far as an eating disorder it may be but i am not chosing to do this to myself i would love to be 150 170 or even 190 but no i am 120 i was off the idea of taking the stuff but the only advice i've gotten is eat i knew that when i was 10yo 12 years later and still real skinny can i have some advice about using the stuff i have as hrt? i need 20lbs if i can't get it soon i loose $20,000 when they take away the sign on bonus for having a ged as the war is going to be as unpopular as vietnam and we pull out. this money means the world to me and yes it is worth possibaly losing my life over.

The only way your going to possibly gain 20lbs in the time period you need to is to go with anadrol, I'm sure your unfamiliar with it so I'll break it down a little for you. Anadrol is the strongest oral steroid out there (with the most sides), 50mg/ed will yeild dramatic increase in muscle mass in a very short period of time. HOWEVER! Gains from drols are all water weight, so you'll want/need to drink 1-1/2 to 2 gallons a day, you will become very bloated and your muscle will have a smooth appearence to them, no defenition; you will also lose your gains VERY quickly after you discontinue using them, I'm talking about 7-10 days. Sides with drols include hair loss, acne, liver damage ect..

Get off the idea that sust will work miracles on you, sust is merely testosterone with 4 different esters controlling how fast it is released into your blood stream: 2 fast acting 2 slow acting. To even get optimal results from sust every other day injections are necessary (to take advantage of the fast acting esters) and every day injects are even better. If you were looking to do this correctly I would still be advising against sust because I'm not a fan of it, better simpler products out there imho.

I'm helping you out here because of your unusual situation and medical problem, yes I think you have a serious one. I would normally never advise anyone, especially a complete newbie, to do an anadrol only cycle; but thats about the only way I can see your goal being reached without simply upping your food intake which you say you can't do. Just bear in mind what I've said about the product, do some of your own research on it, drink tons of water and take a liver aid or two (milk thistle, cranberry extract).

SR

I dont like the multi ester tests. Omna and sust is not my cup of tea. I seem to get the same results on 250mg/week of cyp. vs 750mg/week of omna.

But hey everyone is different.

Honestly just working out makes me hungry. What do you do for work? I work construction so im constantly hungry and trying to maintain weight is hard enough.

How are you going to have the discipline for the militarty if you don't have the discipline to eat. Will the roids even work without the calories to support them? Eat what you can, drink the rest in shakes, but I think you have bigger problems that I hope the Army can help you with.

Will the roids even work without the calories to support them?

Not really, if your diet is shit your gains will be shit. Thats why I said drols, they'll just fill him up full of water weight. Dbols would work too.

SR

i don't want to take the roids to get massive gains i know that's not gonna happen i only need them to work as an appitate stimulant. disipline has nothing to do with eating i can eat but if i force myself when my body don't want it it will come back out and that's just a waste of food

drink some milk lol you need to work on training yourself to eat more. cause even with the sust, it isnt going to do anything if you cant eat, gear is worstless with out food

sounds like your full of shit to me, if you take sustonon you will die you retard, that stuff kills anyone below 175lbs your eyeballs will explode you dumb ass read the cautions on the sust label man, You are so lucky you asked you could have been dead or blind in the morning. Sorry to yell at you like this but i cant imagine what would your momma do or Dad when he came into little shimmy's room there 130lbs son who eats a few eggs a day and find him trying to get out of his room with his eyes all blown apart and exploded onto his face.and saying mommy I just wanted to gain 5 more lbs..... man sad story here. Man eat some food do some push ups pull ups sit ups pulls ups push ups run ups and run downs and eat eat eat, dont take roids man that shit is bad4u.4u bad bad 4 U

lol. Ya know what... this is amazing... I actually agree with everything AK just said. What's more amazing... I it made me laugh... and this time it was not even from the thought of forking my eyes out so I never had to read another one of his posts!

Anyway... back on track... I see a few problems here.

I doubt that the problem is a medical one. My guess is that you have a rather high metabolism and you lead a sedentary lifestyle. You don't know how to train, and you don't know how to eat. It's all about consistency and timing.

How often do you train? What does your typical diet look like?

If you're so concerned with your $20g... so much so that you don't mind dying... shut the fuck up and eat. If you're willing to die to gain the weight, you should be willing to waste a little food. If you're willing to get your squadmates killed because you're too fucking weak to lift your rifle, too damn weak to run with your gear on, and nothing but a liability on the battlefield cuz you're in fucking pathetic condition... then you should be willing to put everything else in your life on hold, train and eat and log everything in a thread here. You might think that your life is only worth $20g... but other soldiers might put a higher value on theirs. If your 20grand means so much to you that you're willing to get your shit shot off, get your buddies shot up... let someone else die because of you... if you're THAT serious... then lets fuckin see it.

I want you to post EVERYTHING that you do. I want to see all your training, every morsel that you eat, when you get out of bed, when you go to sleep, how much TV you watch, how long you stand in the fucking shower. Then, we will tell you what needs to be fixed... and you will fix it. If you're actually as serious as you claim to be... fuckin nut up soldier and lets see what you're made of.

Damn Tadger: I think I'm in love with you.

i havn't taken the sustanon i started taking Periactin per advice from someone forgot who i have done so much reading it's not even funny about different types of gear, pct, methods of adminerstration, even about home brewing not that i will ever but i like to learn everything i can about a subject that i am taking a interest in. i am now eating 3000 kcals (calories) a day something i have never been able to do even more i don't feel sick eating anymore which seems to go with my theory i needed an appitate stimulant. your right about the consistity though tadger. although you are putting too much emphasis on being big and strength i am only 120 but i can endure more than any of my friends at an activity and can recover faster too (benifit of a high metabalism) i don't consider my self a liability for others if i was going to a war zone will power is the strongest part of a person. i work out 3 times a week EVERY Mon Weds Sat swiching upper body and lower body every time. i acknowledge i don't train anywhere near your guys's level as i never trained with anyone else i havn't seen any gains yet but hope to do so soon. (i gained 5 pounds but i am within my normal weight range) so i don't count that. honestly i expected this thread to die by now so thanks for all your reply's helpful or not

I dont know about you iq but when I want good advice I always take it from those who ridicule me and make condescending remarks.

I was always puny , 5'9 125 pounds. Not as thin as you but I can relate, and yeah right - just eat - I'm sure you never thought of that huh? Hey, can you hold your breath for 20 minutes? No? Well what if you apply some discipline? Still can't do it? Of course not, because your body just won't allow it. I know where you are coming from.
Do what you can do brother. Do it with a passion like Tadger says if you are serious. I mean really do it. I think some of these guys were really tough on you. I was never in the military, but maybe tough is what you need I dunno. I do know I dont listen to people who piss me off and attacking someone who already has a complex about their body seems like adding insult to injury, IMO
I'm sure everyone means well and wants to keep you from hurting yourself.
Being scrawny sucks big time especially when people use words like scrawny when speaking to you. It always was funny to me how people would hesitate to call someone fat but never think twice about calling me stick boy. Oh well, if you are going in the army I suppose you will need a thick skin.
I wish you good luck and I hope you do well whatever you decide to do. I would just hope you could find some way to find a Dr to help you out.
Getting big is not going to be easy for you, but thats what makes it all the better knowing you had to "nut up" to get to the same place some others got to with no nuts at all.
That was not a swipe at you either TadgerI think your advice was good - slightly cold , but good.
Once again good luck man,
try hard and then try really hard

... and we never hear from him again.

... and we never hear from him again.

what a surprise :D

Where are you going to be able to inject if you are skin and bones? You need muscle to inject into. This whole story sounds out there in BULLSHIT LAND!!

I just eat chinese 3 times a day. that usually fattens me up a little .

(dont take me seriously)


Now that sounds like something up my alley!

:)

let this thread die i gained my weight after getting flamed not helped in retrospect i am glad i wasn't encouraged. it turns out i have a hormone defeciency. i don't want to see someone who is small think they can do what i did i know there were people concerned with my safety for being so small and i did risk my health at the 300mg a week sust. i became "normal" for the first time physically and mentally i felt the difference 2 days after first injection. my doctor even told me that i should have suggested a hormone level test sooner because i was right about not feeling "right" and yes i was off the stuff for 12 weeks before getting the hormone blood test. for those who care my weight went from anorexic 120lbs to healthy 160lbs and after stopping the working out to see if my weight drops it didn't and now i'm working out on only a hrt level of hormones. to those who read this to do what i did don't i know all to well that gaining 1 pound is harder for some than saving $10000 and not having a job for but for the love of god find out why and don't self diagnose

All kidding aside. If it had to come down to you using gear i would have perosnally recomneded some Cyp. For hard gainers this a great test. Cyp was my first cycle. When I was 19 i was 5.11 and about 165, had been training naturally for about 4 years. I packed on the muscle quick. I would have then took a break for about a month still working hard then play with the Sus.

I am glad to hear you are fine. I wish you well and please keep us posted on your progess.

deranged mind please check a postings age and if it is old don't add a comment not to be mean but you shouldn't bring up old threads expecially if your comment is about chinese food in a steroid forum.

but thank-you for the well wishes.

If you have time can you give us an update.

I know the guys were busting your balls but through all the wise ass comments I hope you can see that we were trying to help.

I totally agree with your guys's stance, I even support it. I just knew deep down that i'm abnormal and it was due to hormone levels. A doctor verified this a while ago (6 months.) I'm on 150mg test 50mg three times a week. I am "self medicating" though do to still not having insurance. I "naturally" balanced out at 150lbs though in all honesty i look the same as i did at 120 can someone please explain this as i am 6 feet tall and it's not from fat becoming muscle. I would be suprised to find out that i ever has anything over 8% body fat.

I don't workout anywhere near enough mostly because I don't know how to "right". I know this is really basic and don't give me too hard of a time but when you work out you should alternate parts of the body every other day right? That's not my question my question is when doing that if your real sore days later do you still stick to the schedule or do you let your body heal?

at 6 feet you can weigh only 85lbs not that i ever want to be an example. just telling me to eat doesn't do me any good the reason i first posted is because i can't do that it's easy to say eat but if you have a real problem with eating it isn't that easy. i did reserch on aids victims getting 300ml sustanon every three weeks as prescribed by a doctor to force thier body to want to eat and store the food as lean body mass they weigh less than i do and don't die from thier eyes poping out or heard attacks as far as an eating disorder it may be but i am not chosing to do this to myself i would love to be 150 170 or even 190 but no i am 120 i was off the idea of taking the stuff but the only advice i've gotten is eat i knew that when i was 10yo 12 years later and still real skinny can i have some advice about using the stuff i have as hrt? i need 20lbs if i can't get it soon i loose $20,000 when they take away the sign on bonus for having a ged as the war is going to be as unpopular as vietnam and we pull out. this money means the world to me and yes it is worth possibaly losing my life over.

hey mate, your obvously not telling your full story, you say money is your reason for not going to the doctor yet you have paid for some gear and told us obtaining food is not the problem which also costs money, do you have a desease causing your eating disorder such as aids and been perscribed the sus? if not why did you spend money on steroids instead of a doctors appointment, you really need help from a proffessional mate, goodluck!

I started off around 140-145 at 6' tall and got up to 180 naturally in about a year. You gotta eat WAYYYYYYYYYY more bro, sometimes i would eat so much i puked then i would have to go make more food and eat again since i just threw it all up. It is hard work.

I could not imagine what its like to be such a hard gainer. as an ex fat kid I always wished to be skinny. I dieted down and got accused of being ill, or an aids patiant. I shit you not.

but you know your not the only person with this problem, and it really does come down to calories taken in. I would suject taking many weight gainer shakes every day. if you can up your calories by like 2,000 you would start seeing a lot more results.

SJC i did go see one, the issue was that i knew hormones would be expencive through prescription. i wisened up in the year after i posted that. which i also posted.

keep in mind this thread is a year old and only got brought up so someone could comment about liking chinese food.

but back to the workout question keep to the schedule?

Well igi, we all look the same to ones self. I am 222 with cloths on so really about 215. I look the same to myself as I did when I was 180. When I really see the contrast is in picture and when I stand next to my twin brother.

How are your eating habits now that your on test.

SJC i did go see one, the issue was that i knew hormones would be expencive through prescription. i wisened up in the year after i posted that. which i also posted.

sorry bud, im new here! hows it all going now?

My eating habits are like crap, I want to eat mentally but physically I can't. I hate to admit it but I'm probaly clinicaly anorexic. I don't use not eating food to make myself feel better i just am not hungry and if I force feed myself I just end up puking. "Getting the Munchies" is the only way I have to want to eat when I don't feel like it but I am no longer ok with breaking the law in that area. I'm afraid i am still going to drop weight again even with the hormone issue fixed. What are some good appitite stimulants everything I google has some people say it works and others that say it don't.

oh and i am sure i look the same because i use how much my bones stick out in places they shouldn't (hips ribs and so on) my muscles do feel way denser but 30 lbs worth? why would I harden not "grow" at the small size I am? I wish I had a camera you wouldn't belive I weigh 150. Life sucks :)

congrats, 30 lbs in 1 year is awsome!

I would try to and go to a county doctor tell the your a homeless immigrant who is gay, with one leg, and can only see out of one eye. Or what ever it takes. There is more than a hormonal issue going on.

I like to ignite hippie flowers once in a while and that shit give me the munchies.

So should I get a full blood work plus whatever to find out what's wrong? At this point I no longer care how much it costs to find out what's wrong. 30,000 dollars is only 3000 for ten years i' sure I can find that somewhere. Screw it i'm gonna do it I just hope I don't end up owing $50,000+ i still owe $4000 for the first round of blood work.