i can basically get anything that i want under any brand here in mex. i used EUROVET last time, and it seemed to do well for me. but i was surprised to see the options my supplier at the gym gave me, and ive seen most of them in hand and they looked legit and all sealed up too.

If you can get anything you want then just go with something human grade.

If you can get anything you want then just go with something human grade.

bump, also, it may just be me but I'm not a fan of mexican gear no overwelming reason just dont good luck on you search:)

I don't know for sure if one brand is better per say, but if one is under dosed and the other isn't then thats a no brainer. then theres the issue of being sterile. cleaner is better.

If you can get anything you want then just go with something human grade.

yup, agreed 100%.
the only things you can't get human grade are EQ and Tren.

really??? i always thought vet stuff was better. my first cycle i used human grade testE and they were painfull as hell, and the next time with eurovet, i could hardly feel anything and gained more. deca is also super expensive in human grade.

uhm.
human grade and veterinary grade are the SAME THING. If it's good enough for an animal, then it's good enough for a human. They use the same testing and procedures.

The other classification is underground, or UG for short. Underground gear is basically made is someone's basement, with unknown sterility conditions and very rarely actually tested for accuracy in terms of potency or sterility.

usually when people say "human grade" they mean actuall prescription stuff. like the stuff you get at cvs pharmacy or riteaid

well i can get "human grade" at any pharmacy, my supplier is the one who sells all of the other brands.

Human grade anabolics probably have a better quality control system in place - than vet grade.

Human grade anabolics probably have a better quality control system in place - than vet grade.

well they are always being inspected by the fda, so I would guess they have a stricter set of rules for manafacturing.

i guess ill give these a try AGAIN. like i said, my first cycle was a "human grade" testE only, and the shots hurt like hell. i could barely walk for the complete cycle, let alone work my legs. had a awful time. maybe itll work a little better with the deca in it.

i could barely walk for the complete cycle, let alone work my legs. had a awful time. maybe itll work a little better with the deca in it.


Work your legs anyway!

i couldnt!!! i could barely walk. by the time the pain would start to go away like on wed, it was time for my next shot. i had to split them up because of the pain. i thought it was just the person who was shooting me, but after i changed them and things were still the same, i knew it was the gear. i couldnt sit on regular chairs, had to be soft.

There's no sence in ussing AAS if you don't train legs. On that note maybe your better off with a vet brand.

Human grade anabolics probably have a better quality control system in place - than vet grade.

they're the same.
human grade and veterinary grade have the exact same quality control systems in place. You can't give it to an animal, unless it's good enough for a human. Even things like Finaplex go through the same quality control mechanisms by law. If it doesn't meet North American quality control standards, then it would not be available to our Veterinarians or Doctors. (i.e. Jintropin is NOT approved in North America... still good, but still does not meet the standards.)

When classifying grades (or quality) there are only two:
Human Grade (since vet grade is the SAME grade.)
Underground (no standardized quality control measures in place.)

i guess ill give these a try AGAIN. like i said, my first cycle was a "human grade" testE only, and the shots hurt like hell. i could barely walk for the complete cycle, let alone work my legs. had a awful time. maybe itll work a little better with the deca in it.

what lab made it? did it come from a multi-use vial, or from individual ampules you had to crack open for every injection?

indivudual ampules................??
i bought it at a pharmacy, every single one had the same brand. actually all of them have the same test/sust/deca.

indivudual ampules................??
i bought it at a pharmacy, every single one had the same brand. actually all of them have the same test/sust/deca.

in which country did you purchase this from? have any photographs of what you recieved? I'm assuming it's all from Organon.

i dont remeber the brand, its been around 2yrs but i still see the same little box of the stuff. i get all my stuff from mex, i live right across the border.

What about gear made in other countries. One of the sources I'm looking at offers gear made in Greese, Russia, etc, etc. I would rather have something made in America, UK, Canada, etc but he doesn't offer anything else.

kbronss .. note that there is fake gear in mexico on the shelves at pharmacies even. I've seen fakes of almost everything in the pharmacy there, sitting on the shelves. So be cautious.

mrorange .. Gear is a lot like Automobiles, leave it to the Easteners. The Greek, Russian, Indian, Czech, etc. gear is the best money can buy. All the best of the best of the best quality products come from over there. Organon comes from either Egypt or Pakistan. Jelfa products come from Poland. Lyka Labs is in India. Norma Hellas is in Greece. Farmak is in the Ukraine. British Dispensery is in Thailand. Anafarm is in Greece. And, Galenika ICN is in Yukoslavia. Just to name a few off the top of my head.

The only exception to the rule seems to be GH and IGF-1.

i know there is fake gear here, but i did see results from the first brand that i used which i purchased at a pharmacy. the only thing is, that i lost every single lb i gained after i stopped using, not even close to that this time. in fact i didnt loose anything to be honest.

Sounds like your PCT was off the first cycle.