Hey Guy's, after researching this gear I can't get a clear answer on how many injects, is this once a week or twice a week? Any info would be appreciated..

once-3 times per week:)... depends on your goals and if you care if your test levs are fishy for the first 2 weeks, I personally dont care as you would never know it anyways as your own test is still on so all you will notice is your stronger. If you want to get technical on sust omnedren you would need to inject it eod to get optimal results, but after you inject omnedren once you will want to do as less shots as you can haha:), also dude do a search for omnedren or sustonon as they are 100% identical , and there is a shit load of different ways to run it according to different opinions.

Thanks alot Anadrol King. You aren't kidding, I took my first inject last night and woke up this morning and my left tricep feels like it was used for a punching bag~~~:)

It has prop in it, so to take FULL advantage of omnadren, you'll need to take a shot every 2 days. If you're looking for weekly shots, go with enanthate or cypionate next time.

Thanks alot, I do appreciate all the info. I injected last night and started my dbol yesterday as well, should I be feeling muscle fullness and tightness yet? I also woke up feeling a little sniffly this morning to, is that sus flu or what?

Slight headache also

Could be test flu.

It has prop in it, so to take FULL advantage of omnadren, you'll need to take a shot every 2 days. If you're looking for weekly shots, go with enanthate or cypionate next time.

bump this.. even thought the prop is a small amount you want to keep your blood levels as even as possible - by doing it only 1-3 times a weeks you will not be able to have stable levels.

Slight headache also

whats you blood pressure like?
dbol can make you hold water which can raise your bp. Remember we all react differently to these compounds. I always check out the serious possibilty first.
But as Storm said it might just be test flu..

you guys do realize that your blood test levs are stable after 2 weeks, and in reality they are very stable in 1 week, the prop is so small its really nothing of a bump to your system what so ever. 1-3 times per week is perfect really, the company its self say 1 shot every 9 days , for optimal results of test HRP. I never could figure out why you guys try to get so damn technical with Omnedren.. the med ester and long will so over whelm that small amount of prop it wont even be funny, it was put in there for ppl who do not produce any test at all, this will help them in 1 day and it lasts for 3 days not 1 not 2 but 3 days test levs are notisible elevated. I have run sust omnedren since the 80's I used to like the old omnedren better as it was more of a size builder then the now exact same chem make up as sust. But I when first used the stuff ran it at 250mg pw and the most i have ever shot was 3 times per week. The only why you would know your test levs are high then low would be from a blood test and again it would be so microscopic you would never have know unless your doctor told you, you will only (only) see results with omnedren not a drop ever, if you do feel a drop your lying. Its nice to say this to get technical but in reality if you really give a crap about your test levs being up and down microscopically then run some damn prop along side it for the first week at 10.2 mg per day lol.



Omnadren
(testosterone)

Omnadren 250 is a combination of the 4 separate test esters listed above. Older versions of the drug list the final two esters as ´isohexanoate´ and ´hexanoate.´ However, it should be noted that hexanoate is simply another word for caproate so the drug´s esters have not actually been modified. Most commonly, people will correlate Omnadren 250 with its cousin Sustanon 250, since they are both a blend of 4 test esters. The only difference between the two lies in the last  and most concentrated- ester. Whilst Omnadren contains the caproate ester, Sustanon contains the decanoate ester in the same concentration. Really, except for price, there´s no difference& and price-wise, you´re going to be paying ½ as much for Omnadren as you would for Sustanon (or $3-4usd/amp). This is a very nice price, and for that reason, I typically advise people to purchase Omnadren over Sustanon, if their source carries it.

It is also not uncommon to hear people refer to Omnadren as a superior version of testosterone since it boasts 4 esters instead of 1 (or none). This should be taken with a grain of salt. All testosterone´s produce very similar effects while the ester simply delays the release of the compound into the body which has two immediate consequences. The first, being less important, is injection frequency. This has become a hotly debated issue recently& on the one side are those who advocate injections only once or twice per week. Frequently their arguments are supported with cycle results which have yielded ´good gains.´ On the other side  and perhaps the more scientific side- are those who advocate injections at least every other day (EOD) or ever day (ED). One has only to glance at the ester constitution in Omnadren to understand why this may be. Such small concentrations of the shorter esters (propionate and phenylpropionate) are rendered practically useless when Omnadren is injected once or twice per week. Furthermore, when injecting only a few times per week the ´peaks and valleys´ of concentration in the blood are not desirable. We want our blood concentration of the drugs to be as high as they can be  relative to dose- as long as they can be. Obviously, this is not the case when fast acting esters are introduced and subsequently dissipated before another injection is given.

As the longest ester in Omnadren (caproate) is slightly faster acting than the longest ester in Sustanon (decanoate), users will notice an increase in their testosterone levels sooner with Omnadren than with Sustanon. This has a few consequences which we shall examine now. First of all, since testosterone aromatizes (converts) to estrogen, a buildup of this female hormone will occur more rapidly. With estrogen increase follows the inevitability of increased water retention. This is significant for 3 reasons: First, the user´s strength will increase. Secondly, the user´s size will increase, and finally, definition in the muscles will begin to dissipate. As an obvious result, Omnadren is typically used more for bulking than cutting. The extent of these effects are highly dictated by the user´s diet and training habits, although it is also easily controlled with the proper use of anti-estrogen drugs such as Nolvadex, Armidex, Proviron, and a myriad of others.

As I previously stated, testosterone is a highly anabolic and androgenic hormone, it has an anabolic (muscle building) rating of 100, making it a good drug to use if one is in pursuit of more size and strength. And if you aren´t in pursuit of more size and strength, then why would you be reading this, right? Well, let´s get on with it and look at exactly what makes testosterone a good mass builder. Firstly, testosterone promotes nitrogen retention in the muscle (6) the more nitrogen the muscles holds the more protein the muscle stores. Testosterone can also increase the levels of the highly anabolic hormone, IGF-1, in muscle tissue (7)(9). Even the aromatized part of testosterone that turns into estrogen may increase levels of IGF, and sensitivity to it. Testosterone´s actions come mostly from it´s binding to the androgen receptor to promote A.R dependant mechanisms for both muscle gain and fat loss (5). Thankfully, it also significantly increases the concentrations of the A. R in cells critical for muscle repair and growth and A.R in muscle (8 ). Testosterone induces changes in shape, size and also can change the appearance and the number of muscle fibers (7). Androgens like the testosterone(s) found in Omnadren can protect your hard earned muscle from the catabolic hormones (8), whether those hormones occur from exercise or other stress.
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Omnadren Cycles

Typically cycles which contain Omnadren 250 will be around 12-16weeks. The idea is that it will take at least 2 weeks for the compound to become fully ´active´ in the body, and most users will report an additional 1-3 weeks until the effects of Omnadren are truly felt. As a result, gains from Omnadren are not typically noticed for about 1 month after the first injection. What most people mean by this is that although the actual drug is already active, gains aren´t realized immediately. The majority of users will supplement a fast acting oral drug such as Dianabol or Anadrol in the first 4 weeks of a cycle which is thought of as a ´kickstart´ until the effects of the Omnadren are fully felt. As mentioned above a typical weekly dose of Omnadren can range from 500mg-1000mg per week. Those who are new to steroids and cycling should generally start with a minimal dose so as to better judge how their own bodies will react to the synthetic testosterone. I´d suggest beginners stick with 2 amps per week, if they´re inclined to use this preparation.

Omnadren has always been manufactured by Polfa© which has since changed their name to Jelfa©. The company is based in Poland, and as one might obviously conclude, the availability and price of Omnadren 250 there is much different than many other places. Often, fake Sustanon in the 80´s would actually turn out to be Omnadren, which was much less highly prized (nonsensically).
Omnadren (Testosterone) Profile

1 milliliter of Omnadren 250 contains:
30mg testosterone propionate
60mg testosterone phenylpropionate
60mg testosterone isocaproate
100mg testosterone caproate

[4-androsten-3-one-17beta-ol]
17beta-hydroxy-androst-4-en-3-one
Molecular Weight (of Base): 288.429
Molecular Weight (esters)
Propionate: 362.5082
Phenylpropionate: 438.6058
Isocaproate: 404.5886
Caproate:116.16
Formula (of Base): C19 H28 O2
Formula (esters)
Propionate:C3 H6 O2
Phenylpropionate:C9 H10 O2
Isocaproate:C6 H12 O2
Caproate:C16 H12 O2
Melting Point: 154-155C
Manufacturer: Jelfa
Effective dose: 250-1,000mgs/week
Active Life: 10 days
Detection Time: 3 months
Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio: 100:100

After reading this debate i looked up Omnadren in Anabolics 2006 & found a recomendation of once a week injections.

I appreciate everyone's input, but I am confused now. Let me ask this, if I only inject once a week and continue the dbol 30 mg/ed for 6 weeks, will it be a waste of the Omnedren? Or should I still see decent gains?

The first, being less important, is injection frequency. This has become a hotly debated issue recently& on the one side are those who advocate injections only once or twice per week. Frequently their arguments are supported with cycle results which have yielded ´good gains.´ On the other side  and perhaps the more scientific side- are those who advocate injections at least every other day (EOD) or ever day (ED). One has only to glance at the ester constitution in Omnadren to understand why this may be. Such small concentrations of the shorter esters (propionate and phenylpropionate) are rendered practically useless when Omnadren is injected once or twice per week. Furthermore, when injecting only a few times per week the ´peaks and valleys´ of concentration in the blood are not desirable. We want our blood concentration of the drugs to be as high as they can be  relative to dose- as long as they can be. Obviously, this is not the case when fast acting esters are introduced and subsequently dissipated before another injection is given.


Even with long esters there are benifits of doing more regular injections instead of just once or twice a week.

http://www.anabolicextreme.com/anabolic/new_archives/anex_archive_issue46_BLOOD.htm

this is how I run sust and Omnedren. I mix my omnedrens with enanthate this will make the long ester stronger and the mail building test in it, I shoot 2 omnedrens for the first week, even though you say test levs are all over the place I feel and so do many other bb that your wrong 100% it infact only drops in about 6 days with a crash... but only for the first 2 weeks, even though this is really probably a bunch of shit any ways, but my way is best. This is the post a read a long time ago that made me run it like this and also this guy hates sust and finds any way to say it sucks, but he did tell the truth about it, and running it his way works great, but he also said a 1 shot every 9-14 days sust is the best for hrt. No bloat and no over lap with sust so you are getting the perfect flow of test although on days 5 and 6 you will have a lower releise as the 2 med esters are kicking in and the short prop has dropped off to 0. it is strongest for 3 days then day 4 half life then day 5-6 nothing. so the shorts kick in for the day7 for about 4-6 days but the long over laps this and kicks in and lasts for 3 weeks, so now your good to go and injecting at every 9th day is ideal for a cutter cycle if you cant get any other compounds that are better (tren) so on. But it really is best for hrt. I love omnadren basically for price they are dirt cheap and stretch your cyp enthate. Thanks for doing a search Storm. also Jam thanks for doing a search as well, but just about every bb board has adopted the sust story as you have this is just a myth thats has circulated from one guy saying this and then all of us (me included) posting it all over the place. But after reading more about it and using it myself I find my way is best, after about 30 days into my cycles i drop the sust and save it as the long enathate is so kicking in its really a waist of time injecting the sust. Not trying to say anyones opinions are wrong here, but give this kid a brake you guys get way to tech on the newbs that they dont get it, 1-2 times per week is perfect for sust, + I could not imagine having 7 lumps on my body per week from injecting sust in 7 different spots per week:). Thats would suck ass hard core. But bro you need to get some cyp or enathate from MM and mix that stuff will work 100% better and be less painful. Have fun, get big and press that weight:).

So for use as one would use another long-acting testosterone, I find sustanon to be poor value. The price is roughly the same so I really don't see the affinity people seem to have for it. Respectively cypionate and enanthate are much better choices. I can understand the need for a fast-acting component to front-load and kick-start gains, but even then, testoviron (200 mg testosterone enanthate and 50 mg testosterone propionate) is a much better choice. Speaking of front-loading, for this express purpose sustanon may be very suited. One could probably obtain results faster If one were to use 500 mg of sustanon on day 1, then again 5 days later on day 6 and start a cycle of enanthate/cypionate at 500 mg/week on day 11. That avoids the major crash at the end of the week and makes maximum use of the fast acting esters to saturate the system.

this is a nice link http://www.roidcalc.com/
put in the amounts you will be taking over a course and see how many mg's of hormones there are in your system at any given time.. the more level the mg's the less sides you may experience

that is a good site Jam I used it many times. its great for finding your pct time as well. Thanks for posting that up a lot of questions will be answered there for noobs, you might make that link into a sticking with a catchy name!

it's simple.
If you want to run 250 mg per week, then once per week
500 mg wk, two shots per week
750 mg wk three shots per week
are you getting it?
personally, I hit it once per day:)