hypothetical situation: 10 amps of sust250=2500mg. what would you do? save it for more gear (who knows when?) or start a cycle with it now? how would you use it? 500/wk for 5 weeks or frontload 750 or 1000mg eod until out or other? you also have 30 tabs arimidex/5000 hcg/50 tabs clomid on hand. could you wait to aquire some dball or deca or maybe primo or would you give in to temptation and start injecting? what would your program look like? :confused:

it depends what your goals are , personally I'm running a sus/ deca cycle now and am seeing amazing results. I'm taking the sus one every five days. If you really want to bulk up run 500mg of sus a week mixed with d'bol.

What you wanna do is keep hold of your sust get hold of 10 amps of deca some clomid and hcg. Go straight into it with 500mg of sust per week all at once between 5-7days apart, then take your deca say 200mg on monday and 200mg on thursday or friday so you take 400mg of deca per week. A week befor your last injection take a shot of HCG then the next a week after and the 3rd a week after that. wait 3weeks and do a quick clomid course of 300mg on day 1; then use 100mg for the next 10 days; followed by 50mg for 10 days. or as nesacery.

Keep growing bruv.

Now that is funny shit.... the 17 year old who told his pop his mail receipts were for the purchase of illegal aas is giving advice on how to cycle...... lol

Depending on your size, you may not need much more gear. I like to stay on the conservative side... I have known people to do 250mg/wk for 8 weeks and get decent gains. Depends on your genetics, cycle experience, size etc.... Most will recommend you get a few more amps and run say an 8 weeks cycle at 500mg/wk..... If this is your first cycle, I see no reason to go as high as 500mg sust / 400mg deca... The highest I would even consider going, if you are already a big guy, is 500/300....

As for the HCG, don't do 1 shot a week for 3 weeks. Take 500iu every day for 5 days mid cycle, then the week before you start the clomid therapy, take 500iu/ed .... so that is 2500iu mid / 2500iu at the end.... Done..... Taking more than 1000iu per day can have a negative affect, such as aggravating gyno.

P4 carl don't you think that 300mgs of clomid on the first day is just WAYYY to much? The rest of the cycle is sound, but at the doseges of test and deca that you recommended to abs, He would only need to take 100mgs of clomid for 2 weeks and then drop to 50mgs ed for 2-3 weeks more or until he starts to produce natural test again. And he wouldn't need to take 2 seperate post cycle therapies cuz he can run clomid and HCG at the same time, he may not even need the HCG. Also why take two sepeate shots of DECA? He would have to take 3 seperate shots in one week , you don't even know if he plans on rotating injection sites or that he even knows what that means. Now if you were meaning to say take 250+200 sus/deca in the same pin on mon. then to do the same on thursday or friday then I wouldn't be postin' this reply also he mentioned he had arimedex that is another factor you didn't even bother to address when you slapped that cycle togetherfor him:confused:

thanks for some feedback. i already know how to cycle & i have used gear before. my dilema is that im looking at 10 amps and i dont feel like waiting for more gear although i probably will (ive already used 750 - 1g wk of sust + dball in the past, among other cycles of a50,win,sus,omna,sten,anavar,etc. this isnt new to me) i was just curious if anyone else would wait or if they couldnt resist to endulge in what they had on hand. im also tempted to try this frontloading that ive read about. it sounds good on paper 1000 mg eod for 1 week. ive always used the typical pyramid taper which worked fine. anyway a base of 500mg/wk sus is minimum i would do and i agree on at least 8 weeks which means i need more amps and if im getting more sust then i have to get some dball and either deca or tren/eq or primo although i only want to do 2 shots per week in the glutes (alternating sides) which pretty much leaves me with deca as the choice & i hate to waste a shot w under 2cc of gear so ill probably do 500s/200dec on monday & 250s/200dec on thurs for 750/400wk total (unless i get nor300mg), 1 arimidex day, 4th week 2500hcg/8th wk 2500hcg, start clomid in 8th week 100mg day for 1st wk then 50mg day for next 2-3 weeeks.

I think you answered your own question then..... If you've gone that high with doses, that little bit of sust isn't going to do much of anything for you..... I would save it, rather than half ass it...

I might be 17 i might have fucked up with my parents but this doesn't mean i don't know what im talking about. The cycle i gave you will do wounders. i am doing a sports science course at the moment and read alot on this subject and one of my friends is in uni training to be a doctor. trust me. The HCG is fine to do once a week for three weeks and the clomid can only be started 3 weeks after the last injection otherwise its pointless.
Good luck bruv.

i guess i did answer my own question, i know better than to half ass it, i guess im just gettin fidgety and wanted some re-enforcement to remind me to wait. thanks bro's

Originally posted by p4carl
I might be 17 i might have fucked up with my parents but this doesn't mean i don't know what im talking about. The cycle i gave you will do wounders. i am doing a sports science course at the moment and read alot on this subject and one of my friends is in uni training to be a doctor. trust me. The HCG is fine to do once a week for three weeks and the clomid can only be started 3 weeks after the last injection otherwise its pointless.
Good luck bruv.

What are you talkin' about? You only need 100mg of clomid for 2 weeks straight to get your nuts pumpin. With that mild of a cycle, you wouldn't even need HCG.
How do you figure clomid can only be started 3 weeks after the last injection...It depends on what AS's you're using and the half life. If I were using all prop and suspension, I certainly wouldn't wait 3 weeks...the shit would be outta my system hours after my last injection.
Sust will only be active for about 12 days and Deca can/will be active for up to a month.

Abs - it's usp to you bro, but with that mild of a cycle, you can just take clomid for 2 weeks at 100mg/day and you're nuts will be swole again.

first Adrenaline you must of miss read my post because i said like you to wait for more gear, and that cycle is perfectly fine. The one thing you guys are right about is the clomid i posted i was wrong with those amounts, not sure what i was thinking, but you do start the HCG 3 weeks after sust and deca. your right about the half lifes and it does depend on half lifes but like i said a sust and deca cycle clomid needs to start 3 weeks after last injection.
Thank you and good night.

:lol I'm not gonna say a thing.;)

:curs fight nice children

Cmon bros....
Didnt you know once you get a cycle under your belt, you become an honorary vet that can give out advice.,.....hahahah.
It seems EVERYONE is a vet nowadays, i dont even consider myself a vet, im still learning everyday.

Keep Bangin
RawDog

I'm really only 8 years old and have never actually seen gear, but I like to play on these boards during nap time. My teacher doesn't mind either, as long as I don't spill any milk in the keyboard.....:knock

This has nothing to do with your post but your quote at the bottom is incorrect. Joe Kane the quarterback says "lets put the women and children to bed and go looking for fucking dinner" not latimer. Latimer is the monster Defensive End.






"you do what you have to do to play" latimer

Big bull is right, Kane says that....
great freakin movie, i was surprised they showed Latimer shooting in his ass....

oh shit, i think your right. i couldve sworn it was latimer but i think your right.i know latimer said "seat at the table" after he got starting position & i thought he said the women & children one to. its still a good quote no matter who said it - ill change the name. great fuckin movie.