Well, I have to get jacked again and need some advive or pointers. As I play in Europe we dont start until April, so I am gonna bulk soon and then try and cut up a bit towards the end...

Here's the plan thusfar:

500 Test eth. 1-10
400 Deca 1-10
40mg dbol 1-6
Primo 11-16
Winny 11-20
Equipoise 11-20
Fina 16-20
and clomid 20-23

any ideas, or suggestions? I have the gear, as I get it cheap over there so thats not a prob...any add ons or take outs? I am 5'10 and about 205 now. This will be my 4th (I think ?) cycle...

20 weeks is WAY TOO LONG, IMHO............

It looks way too long to me as well. If you want to do a mass cycle followed by a bridge and try to cut some on the bridge, then I would suggest something more along the lines of:

500 Test eth. 1-10
400 Deca 1-10
40mg dbol 1-5
Fina 6-10

Restore your natural test production with clomid 11-13

Bridge

Primo 11-20
Winny 11-20

Actually, would not do the bridge, but if you are going to do it any way, then I think this is a better option.

Well flex, usin the gear for football is a bit different than usin it for bodybuilding. There is much less concern about bulking and cutting... if any at all. It's all about keeping yourself in good condition while everyone else falls apart. You won't want your bodyfat superlow as it's a good shock absorber for your internal organs and whatnot. If you're going to do such a long cycle, I'd recommend going with far fewer drugs and running test all the way through. I'd probably stay away from deca, eq and fina. I'd go more with things like anavar, primo and masteron along with the test. That'll be alot easier on your body. I wouldn't throw any 17AA's in there if you're gonna put strain on your liver for so long already.

You may want to go with 800mg piracetam 2x/day as well. That'll really help your aerobic performance. You may want to use it at the end of the cycle as well. It'll help with post cycle recovery too.

Other than that... throw some HCG in there periodically. I'd go with lower dosages like 1000IU 3X week for two-three weeks or so mid-cycle. Definitely have some HCG in there when you're comin off at the end.

As far a being on to long no way I was on 10 years straight never came off As far as football Players I knew they never came off either Off season they would drop to a 1000 mgs of test a week ( yes a thousand , ten thousand a week during the 1980's was very common) Just be careful with orals !!

Dr Bob

Originally posted by BurntBody
As far a being on to long no way I was on 10 years straight never came off As far as football Players I knew they never came off either Off season they would drop to a 1000 mgs of test a week ( yes a thousand , ten thousand a week during the 1980's was very common) Just be careful with orals !!

Dr Bob

Whether you CAN do something, or whether it is the wisest choice, are two completely different animals......

Thanks for the help guys...

too long and too many base drugs in the cycle.....deca, eq and primo together is a waste. use one for the whole cycle.
Bang it down to 12 weeks.

some suggestions:
front load or back load the dbol...not one constant dose.
6 weeks of fina
8 weeks of winny....both at the end of the cycle.

You were on for 10 years straight, do you even have receptors anymore? And did you really say that people were running 10,000 mg of test a week, how can you do that? You would have to stick everypart of your body with 3cc of 250mg test almost everyday. Now Im not trying to sound like an asshole Im just curious, you know more than I do if youve been on for ten years.

Originally posted by BurntBody
As far a being on to long no way I was on 10 years straight never came off As far as football Players I knew they never came off either Off season they would drop to a 1000 mgs of test a week ( yes a thousand , ten thousand a week during the 1980's was very common) Just be careful with orals !!

Dr Bob


I didn't even see this......two words brotha Bull & Shit !!

Ok how about just test and dbol front loaded, with a finish of fina and winny...should that do the trick?

that would be a good little sicle